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	<title>Comments on: Getting back on the Rails:  Headaches around Rails 2.x</title>
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		<title>By: Ivan</title>
		<link>http://stevengharms.com/getting-back-on-the-rails-headaches-around-rails-2x/comment-page-1#comment-1236</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;I think ‘breaking’ the scaffold from 1.x to 2.x was a mistake. While the 2.x version may (arguably) be an ‘improvement’, it also breaks all the existing tutorials and puts barriers in the way of newcomers.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Completely agree with the above. I was very close to give up on rails after spending a good 4 days trying to make my first application work. I was unfortunate enough to try rails after 2.02 was released. All of the documentation I found did not work. The beauty of ruby and rails keep me going. Finally I go it from blogs like yours and this one http://davidlynch.org/blog/2008/01/rails-20-scaffolding . Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think ‘breaking’ the scaffold from 1.x to 2.x was a mistake. While the 2.x version may (arguably) be an ‘improvement’, it also breaks all the existing tutorials and puts barriers in the way of newcomers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Completely agree with the above. I was very close to give up on rails after spending a good 4 days trying to make my first application work. I was unfortunate enough to try rails after 2.02 was released. All of the documentation I found did not work. The beauty of ruby and rails keep me going. Finally I go it from blogs like yours and this one <a href="http://davidlynch.org/blog/2008/01/rails-20-scaffolding" rel="nofollow">http://davidlynch.org/blog/2008/01/rails-20-scaffolding</a> . Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://stevengharms.com/getting-back-on-the-rails-headaches-around-rails-2x/comment-page-1#comment-1197</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 04:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I found the Scaffolding Extensions plugin - which looks like an even better solution and is available as a plugin:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/Scaffolding+Extensions+Plugin&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/Scaffolding+Extensions+Tutorial&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the Scaffolding Extensions plugin - which looks like an even better solution and is available as a plugin:</p>
<p><a href="http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/Scaffolding+Extensions+Plugin" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/pages/Scaffolding+Extensions+Plugin</a></p>
<p><a href="http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/Scaffolding+Extensions+Tutorial" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/Scaffolding+Extensions+Tutorial</a></p>
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		<title>By: steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Brian,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sorry, it looks like we&#039;re in the concrete from the get go same as if we&#039;d done the generate static scaffold from 1.x.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Steven&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>Sorry, it looks like we&#8217;re in the concrete from the get go same as if we&#8217;d done the generate static scaffold from 1.x.</p>
<p>Steven</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://stevengharms.com/getting-back-on-the-rails-headaches-around-rails-2x/comment-page-1#comment-1195</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I hit the same hurdle from 1.x to 2.x - it looks like the dynamic scaffolding is gone? I had the same &quot;use case&quot; where dynamic scaffolding would very helpfully update views during prototyping. Can a new generator be created for &quot;dynamic scaffodling&quot;?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hit the same hurdle from 1.x to 2.x - it looks like the dynamic scaffolding is gone? I had the same &#8220;use case&#8221; where dynamic scaffolding would very helpfully update views during prototyping. Can a new generator be created for &#8220;dynamic scaffodling&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: E</title>
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		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 08:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What an excellent post. I&#039;m going through the same thing with Rails 2.0&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I was using 1.x a few months ago, but 2.0  is starting to get as bad as Java&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an excellent post. I&#8217;m going through the same thing with Rails 2.0</p>
<p>I was using 1.x a few months ago, but 2.0  is starting to get as bad as Java</p>
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		<title>By: Huw Collingbourne</title>
		<link>http://stevengharms.com/getting-back-on-the-rails-headaches-around-rails-2x/comment-page-1#comment-1183</link>
		<dc:creator>Huw Collingbourne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Glad my tutorial helped ;-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I may come back and pinch some ideas from you now (in moving from Rails 1.x to 2.x we should all stick together!)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As I&#039;ve said elsewhere, I think &#039;breaking&#039; the scaffold from 1.x to 2.x was a mistake. While the 2.x version may (arguably) be an &#039;improvement&#039;, it also breaks all the existing tutorials and puts barriers in the way of newcomers. Speaking as the developer of a Ruby On Rails IDE, I may also add that even tiny &#039;breaks&#039; (anything from the syntax of a script to the naming conventions of files - &#039;.rhtml&#039; to &#039;html.erb&#039;) also breaks the IDEs (and forces us to divert our efforts into fixing things that weren&#039;t hirtherto broken rather than getting on with developing new features). While I can understand the attractions of re-designing a system such as Rails to be more aesthetically pleasing to the developer, I must admit to serious reservations about some of the changes made in Rails 2.0. I only hope this is a one-off...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;best wishes
Huw Collingbourne&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad my tutorial helped <img src='http://stevengharms.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I may come back and pinch some ideas from you now (in moving from Rails 1.x to 2.x we should all stick together!)</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said elsewhere, I think &#8216;breaking&#8217; the scaffold from 1.x to 2.x was a mistake. While the 2.x version may (arguably) be an &#8216;improvement&#8217;, it also breaks all the existing tutorials and puts barriers in the way of newcomers. Speaking as the developer of a Ruby On Rails IDE, I may also add that even tiny &#8216;breaks&#8217; (anything from the syntax of a script to the naming conventions of files - &#8216;.rhtml&#8217; to &#8216;html.erb&#8217;) also breaks the IDEs (and forces us to divert our efforts into fixing things that weren&#8217;t hirtherto broken rather than getting on with developing new features). While I can understand the attractions of re-designing a system such as Rails to be more aesthetically pleasing to the developer, I must admit to serious reservations about some of the changes made in Rails 2.0. I only hope this is a one-off&#8230;</p>
<p>best wishes<br />
Huw Collingbourne</p>
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